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defining good

by marc english
Wednesday, September 3, 2008. 06:35AM
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[my friend and colleague, terry marks, of seattle is working on a book and among other questions, he asked me to define my criteria for defining good work.}

criteria: the academic answer is what i apply to my students' work. five things: concept, design (i.e. layout), typography, color, craft. which all goes to show that type or color could literally be crap (what is deemed classic, traditional or swiss, let's say, as compared to nasty and hand-rendered) or absurd and yet be in service to the concept. what often fails first is terrible typography, as that is usually the most obvious, followed quickly by layout and color. what takes a bit more time to suss out is concept, if all of the above seem competent or even superb. 

but even superb attention to typography or to other details makes no difference if the concept is flat.

which leads to the simpler and more complex answer.

the simple part is this: all of the above must be in service to two things - utility and beauty. the words that are on either side of the AIGA medal. or said another way, appropriate and unique. communication design has to communicate in an manner that is utilitarian and appropriate to the message and medium.

a designer can’t just dip into their bag of tricks or hot licks or trends of the day and slap them on a given project. i didn’t say it first, but form follows function. we’ve seen too many applications of any number of typefaces or design trends that had NOTHING to do with underscoring the message or concept.

of course once the utilitarian and appropriate angle is covered, if design only serves those masters, we’re left with a very pedestrian reading of the content. the BEST design offers beauty and differentiation, that messages and their proponents are separated from those many other messages out there.

if one has a need to eat, wants fowl, odds are chicken may be more appropriate than peacock. one is bred for eating, the other for sheer beauty. maybe peacock tastes good. i don’t know. but pollo would do the trick. boiling the chicken would make it passable food. but i’d like mine fried. and then fried a certain way, with certain spices. or maybe i’d like that chicken broiled, grilled or roasted. its about the audience. because for some boiled may be just right. even then, you can boil chicken and add a few spices.

or think about it in terms of grapes provided to us by our client. are we serving grapes? or raisins? or wine, grape juice, grape jam, grape jelly? and for any of the above, then what quality? general purpose or a more rarified and organic variety of product? utility and beauty have there places in that final design.

the more complex part is determining beauty. for to determine the utilitarian is rather simple: it works or it doesn’t. it communicates or it doesn’t. it is clear or it isn’t.

but beauty IS in the eyes of the beholder, and one’s aesthetic tastes are guided by one’s experiences and understanding. example: i had lunch not too long ago with a woman that was my account executive for a few years. at lunch she said there were two things she learned while working with me, one of which was seeing beauty where she had never realized it was before. that comes with a deliberate opening of the imagination, a deliberate engaging in the unknown, and a deliberate willingness to drop previous assumptions. it requires a consciousness that allows for all things to be possible

several years ago i read a lot of emmanuel kant (Critique of Aesthetic Judgment) and johann schiller (On the Aesthetic Education of Man) each of whom wrote superb essays on aesthetics in the 1700s. while i may have forgotten more than i retained, they underscored such disparate notions as pleasure and education, and for each, how morality fits in to the notion of beauty. the Good is the Beautiful. so if good is beautiful, according to schiller, then imagine what kant’s definition of the sublime must have been. and for schiller, he believed that one could raise the moral values of people with beauty.

so to answer your question about criteria i use when defining what is good, i seek pleasure, education and a very certain feeling that all is right in the world. pretty simple, hunh?

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Friday, September 5, 2008. 12:36PM by Bret Carpenter
I’ve got an iota here
Friday, September 5, 2008. 08:55AM by michael Iva
THERE IS NO PROBLEM----Interesting post. Interesting reactions. Interesting responses. It's great to be alive and passionate, no? Quibbling over semantics = keen insights. Bravo!
Friday, September 5, 2008. 05:03AM by Bret Carpenter
Problem: lack of innovation
Thursday, September 4, 2008. 04:35PM by John Q Public
Good IS an enemy of great, what's the problem?
Thursday, September 4, 2008. 07:55AM by Buddy 'Friendly' Wachenheimer
Whatever Marc. . . . You sound like a religious zealot, a know it all know nothing, who’s belief and faith substitute for facts or proof or practicality. “My God is better than you God. Either you believe in what I believe in, or you’re wrong and I’m right.” I am not getting in A- PISSING- MATCH- WITH- A- PRIMA-DONNA with that mindset, it’s not worth my time, or anyone else’s time. And yes, I am a devil's advocate, and you burst into tears at the slightest provocation. Your house (built of playing cards) must not be too stable? But you know what, it makes for a lively conversation, except you’re just too defensive, too anxious to challenge, too quick to avoid criticism, too prone to making personal attacks when you can’t make a point or properly defend your position, and it’s too hard for you to stay on topic? I wonder what Kant and Schiller would call that?. . .An insecure egotist.
Wednesday, September 3, 2008. 09:45PM by Leah Lax
and one more thing, no matter what the self-help section of any bookstore says - not everyone can be great. That's why there's only one first place. And as long as people lie to each other and believe that there are no losers, they will continue to live this delusion in earnest but misplaced hope that they too are great. They're not. Last place is not the last winner, and second place ain't first. But you gotta be good to understand whether or not you have a legitimate shot at greatness if you bust your ass. If you don't know this, you are lying to yourself, and worse lying to anyone you snookered into believing in you. There's a reason "overnight success" is an oxymoron.
Wednesday, September 3, 2008. 09:38PM by Leah Lax
The difference between good and great....is why history books are comparatively thin yet libraries are comparatively full. but why stop at great? why not be fucking amazingly spectacularly two scoops with a cherry on top awesome? Great is a good thing to shoot for, but you have to spend a lot of sweat, blood and time failing to understand what good is and what great is. Great...is the happy accident after a lot of preparation. Good is a strong prerequisite for great, and it's more difficult to maintain being solidly good over long periods of time, than to achieve finite points of greatness. Settling for a good life is easy, but LIVING a good life (and keeping it that way) is incredibly difficult. Living a good life means that you do NOT settle. You must be able to understand what makes things good to make a run for great - and to appreciate BOTH. I beg to differ that good isn't as important as great.
Wednesday, September 3, 2008. 09:10PM by marc english
buddy. i've been reading your comments and feedback for a couple years now. do you just like to play devil's advocate or are you really as full of shit as you appear. don't read my words. read kant. read schiller. they talk about Good, okay? read the fucking books. terry knows exactly what he's doing whereas you just like to mix it up and don't add anything to the mix. i heard that maxim for years: good is the enemy of great. whether tossing that quote in the mix or even my quoting K or S. two of terry's questions were: 5) How do you evaluate your own design? 6) Do you use the same criteria in evaluating the design you encounter? my response is above. that is how i evaluate, critique. i chose the word good, because in the context of MY work, i consider it good. sometimes great, but more often good. the fact that others think it Good Enough to be included in museums, in collections, on peoples' shelves from the Greatest of publishers and retail establishments, is Good Enough for me. i know great, and more often that not, i ain't it. but sometimes i get there. batting 400 is considered Great. but it only means you sucked less than the guy that batted 250 or 300. out of 1000. me? i just try to get on base and work my way around and score. by being consistently good, which is a helluva lot harder that anyone thinks. instead of offering up that blah blah blah about goodenemyofgreat, i would suggest you offer up something other than Mediocre and Average responses . . . oh, like maybe generating some kind of useful discourse and offering up Your Own versions of defining, dare i say, Great. instead you take lazyass copouts and whine about what i've written. that would be an F in my book if all you did was say That's Bad and offer up no alternatives. that's lazy and hardly constructive. if one of the points of this site is to provide some meaning to readers, then only offering disagreement does them no Good. and to go back to my point, if they get no Ple
Wednesday, September 3, 2008. 05:13PM by Buddy 'Friendly' Wachenheimer
Yeah, I don’t agree with your assessment. If Kant and Schiller wax long and hard on the ‘sublime’ as you mentioned, then discussing good, would surely disappoint both of them, greatly. More than likely the reality of the situation is that your friend and colleague, Terry Marks, of Seattle asked you the wrong question, and you didn’t bother to correct him, or didn’t know the difference.
Wednesday, September 3, 2008. 01:26PM by Leah Lax
yeah, but you have to understand what differentiates good from great in order to make the leap (intentionally). People can get lucky, but because so very many people are less than good...it actually sets the bar even higher for great when you set the bar for good.
Wednesday, September 3, 2008. 01:12PM by Richard Track
Good is the enemy of GREAT
Wednesday, September 3, 2008. 10:43AM by Leah Lax
well, i kinda think that Marc is onto something here. The problem with greatness is that you have to have a good foundation. Defining "good" is important. (and hey, as Bill Cosby famously put it, wasn't "good" good enough for God?)Defining "good" gives someone a standard to achieve where you can actually make the leap to "great". Too many people try to go from zero to great and end up at way less than good.
Wednesday, September 3, 2008. 10:02AM by marc english
yeah, have heard that rant for years. it's not new in my book. look around. the vast majority of of companies - and schools - are NOT "quite good". they are quite mediocre. mediocrity rules the day and the land. i would settle for good in most cases as i drive past one more suburban mall or one more urban landscape. if kant and schiller can discuss good, then that's good enough for me, although each of them (and myself) can and do wax long and hard on the sublime, which is well above great. but most schools and companies are not even good in my view. i've taught in too many schools, done too many portfolio reviews all across the country to not have a firm grasp of what is out there. and when i break for lunch in about 5 minutes and ride from one side of town to the other it will be confirmed that the "vast majority" is not up to Good standards, but in fact Average standards, those of mediocrity. to argue about good versus great is to miss the point entirely.
Wednesday, September 3, 2008. 09:40AM by Buddy 'Friendly' Wachenheimer
...Is it not better to define and focus on 'GREAT'? Why settle for good? Have you decided that good, is good enough? Whenever an individual or a business decides that success has been attained, that it's good, progress stops. “Good is the enemy of great.” And that is one of the reasons that we have so little that becomes great. We don't have great schools, principally because we have good schools. We don't have great government, principally because we have good government. Few people attain great lives, precisely because it is easy to settle for a good life. The vast majority of companies never become great precisely because they become quite good. - and ‘Good, enough’ is their main problem.